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RE: Catching Venomous Snakes

GreenAnole09 — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 08:33:48 GMT

I unofficaly "kill" this thread.If you want to continue to prisue the topic,make another one.It died,been resurected and only the magic of the mods called Locking the Thread can truely kill it so until then,I unofficaly "close"this thread.

RE: Catching Venomous Snakes

Crested Man — Thu, 01 Jan 2009 19:25:10 GMT

It's pretty old.

RE: Catching Venomous Snakes

the herptile master — Thu, 01 Jan 2009 18:49:52 GMT

Peaple must really like topics about hot snakes. I would like to catch the following venomous snakes in my life time.

King cobra

Inland tipan

King brown

Bushmaster

Fer-de-lance

Feas viper

Gab oon

And the black mamba.

These are my main targets.

RE: Catching Venomous Snakes

uting — Thu, 01 Jan 2009 04:44:36 GMT

Secret........

RE: Catching Venomous Snakes

the herptile master — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:35:45 GMT

Man, how old is this topic?

RE: Catching Venomous Snakes

nagadragon — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:20:42 GMT

How do you catch venomous: verrrry carefully.... snake tongs and hooks, wear thick boots that lace up as high as possible.

RE: Catching Venomous Snakes

SP — Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:36:29 GMT

ha wish i knew, my mother lived in texas before i was born though and the whole crew went rattle snake hunting and she just didnt want to have any part of it but she ended up with one but didnt kill it she kept it safe in a tank, fed it and took care of it even though it was horrably mean and scary, then she let it go when it was safe.. i dont know how though

RE: Catching Venomous Snakes

iguana lover for life — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 07:25:43 GMT

avATROX (10/27/2008)

i meen the guy isent all there sum times the cobra thing really kinda irritated me jus take the pic and leave him alone but NOOOO kept screwin with him aand looked whatt happens hes lucky he got away with it capes have nasty venom and the retic he was wrestleing in the water NOTT smart

true true.....

RE: Catching Venomous Snakes

avATROX — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 21:30:59 GMT

RE: Catching Venomous Snakes

uting — Sun, 26 Oct 2008 02:26:21 GMT

avATROX (10/25/2008)

hahaha AUSTIN STEVENS isent dead yett lol that guy is DUMB if u wanna know what not to do when handeling hotts watch him JUMP IN TO A POND ON TOP OF A GABOON thats real educational oohh and lets act all dramitical when photographing a cape cobra and get bit on the finger lol yess he has a VERY nice camera if u have no experience with hotts LIKE KEEPING jus do ur self a favor and stay away cuzz u give the snake a bad day and ur self a even worse one

true austin stevens is an idiot. He is trying to catch an anaconda on the wet season when they should be studied in the dry season and his excuse is that anacondas are well camouflaged in the dry season. well anacondas are camouflaged in the dry season but they are even harder to find in the wet season so in the end of the show he only caught an 11 foot one when brady barr caught like 5 11 foot one and 1 18 foot one

RE: Catching Venomous Snakes

avATROX — Sat, 25 Oct 2008 23:50:36 GMT

RE: Catching Venomous Snakes

iguana lover for life — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:24:37 GMT

i agree with all the smart herp. ppl on here. i captured a rattler once in my life and never grab it by the tail FYI. im not going to say how i got it either or u might use my tecnique to get yourself killed! i was really dumb the first time i did it but that was to protect my horses form his potent venom. i never try to catch one just to catch it to look at it or disturb it. only that one time. NEVER CATCH VENIMOUS SNAKES EVER!!! unless u where taught extremly well by a professor at an academy.

RE: Catching Venomous Snakes

GreenAnole09 — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 04:28:54 GMT

blkfirecrystal (9/11/2008)

GreenAnole09 (9/11/2008)

Ok,let's ignore the fact that it could actually kill you and move on to the to something else.Never grab it's tail for it'll swing up and bite you.But,just don't do it.Leave it to the pros

And Austin Stevens is not a Pro. He's a lucky idiot with a very nice camera.

I didn't mean Austin Stevens or Jeff Corwin or those TV guys.I ment the real herp experts that went to college and studied herps in college and catch hots and or reasurch them for a living.

RE: Catching Venomous Snakes

blkfirecrystal — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 23:38:26 GMT

GreenAnole09 (9/11/2008)

Ok,let's ignore the fact that it could actually kill you and move on to the to something else.Never grab it's tail for it'll swing up and bite you.But,just don't do it.Leave it to the pros

And Austin Stevens is not a Pro. He's a lucky idiot with a very nice camera.

RE: Catching Venomous Snakes

GreenAnole09 — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 04:33:37 GMT

Ok,let's ignore the fact that it could actually kill you and move on to the to something else.Never grab it's tail for it'll swing up and bite you.But,just don't do it.Leave it to the pros

RE: Catching Venomous Snakes

Katschamne — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 22:07:53 GMT

I agree with everyone here don't do it! I got a chance to work with Rob Carmichael from the Wildlife Nature Center in Lake forest, IL on a show at a museum out here. The show was called "I like Spiders and Snakes Weekend". He has been on a show on Animal Planet and CBS morning show. Hubby and I did the spider portion of the show and Rob did the venomous snakes. Unless you are with someone that is trained don't do it. He never travels anywhere without anti-venom. He told us stories of some of the venomous snakes that they have had to rescue as well. When we went to his faculity he gave us the behind the scene tour of the place and I have to say I have much greater respect for venomous snakes then I did before and the people who handle them.

RE: Catching Venomous Snakes

herpintedd — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:37:22 GMT

best advice ive ever herd in regards to practicing to handle hots is to get a really pissed off rat snake and practice with that. try not to stress it out too much but its a good way to get the feel.

RE: Catching Venomous Snakes

avATROX — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 07:36:36 GMT

i own 2 speckeld rattlers 2 nothern pacifics 2 southern pacifics 2 sidewinders 2 red diamonds and 2 westren diamond backs hotts are no joke and i can see alot of crap hittin the fan if ur not experienced with hotts stick with a camera take a picture dont listen to herptile that is the most un responsible way to catch a hott ive ever herd an corwin is a professional with a dagree under his belt u dont have 1 LEAVE THE HOTTS ALONE please dont mess with them get sum professional help before u even think about catchin them..

RE: Catching Venomous Snakes

the herptile master — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 11:42:54 GMT

I just recalled something, steve was a good actor, when he played in his movie. Otherwise, its all real and isent rehersed.

RE: Catching Venomous Snakes

blkfirecrystal — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 21:02:24 GMT

the herptile master (7/13/2008)

Briang, what do you mean Steve was a good actor? Was he acting when cookie, one of his salties, bit him on the hand and dragged him into the water? Was he acting when the super croc broke his finger and ribs? Was he acting when he nearly sustained a fatal injury at the hands of the black mamba? Think about this and reply.

Yes, he was acting. Also, for future reference, every Herpetile Master worth their salt "nearly sustains fatal injuries at the hands of the Black Mamba". It just goes with the job!

RE: Catching Venomous Snakes

the herptile master — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:01:10 GMT

Briang, what do you mean steve was a good actor. Was he acting when cookie one of his salties bit him on the hand and draged him in the water? Was he acting when the super croc broke his finger and ribs? Was he acting when he nearly sustained a fatil injory at the hands of the black mamba? Think about this and reply.

RE: Catching Venomous Snakes

blkfirecrystal — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 10:16:48 GMT

I think it's great that you educate your children in herpeculturation. Even better that you adopted what sound to be three lovely angels. Well, Chris and I have grad school and jobs to worry about, so when we have children, we worry about that toddler age of 2-4, where they love to run around and get into trouble. WE can always wait for Hots when they are older, might even get some mild hots, like European fire salamanders.

RE: Catching Venomous Snakes

BrianG — Sat, 07 Jun 2008 22:20:56 GMT

Thanks. We have three adopted children ages 7-9-and 11. Any time we work with the hots the kids are sent to another part of the house and we are in the room alone. They are not allowed back into the room or any wear near the room until the cages are re-locked and they are given the OK to return. They do help with the feeding of the other snakes. The 7yo has her own BP and the boys have their corns. The chances of accidents with the children are less likely to happen if they are properly educated.

RE: Catching Venomous Snakes

blkfirecrystal — Sat, 07 Jun 2008 22:02:53 GMT

Wow, 4 west. Diamonds. They must be alot of fun. A mohav and a black tailed too. We only have C. horridus, the timbers out in my area of Texas. I thought about keeping some hots, but Chris and I were thinking of children on down the line, and Hots probably aren't a good growing up environment for young kids.
But you give great advise on the field herping. I do the buddy system on almost all my field work, herping or decapodding, so it's second nature to me I thought it was common sense to go hunting with a friend or two.

Well, another nugget of knowledge, go out and buy an up to date field guide for your area and memorize the local Hots and Nots (mimics and similars.) Don't want to be afraid oa a Nerodia spp., but don't want to grab a A. picivorus thinking it's just a water snake.

RE: Catching Venomous Snakes

BrianG — Sat, 07 Jun 2008 20:35:49 GMT

Just an FYI. Steve Irwin did a show here in Arizona about venomous reptiles of the Sonoran Desert. During the show you see him squatting and there is a rattlesnake slithering between his legs just inches from his crotch. I was informed by local herpers that the producers for that show used snakes from their collection and that the majority of the snakes used were venomoids. These herpers are very reliable people and I trust the information they gave me as fact. It may be true that Jeff Corwin and Steve Irwin have/had great reputations as having contributed to the conservation of the worlds animals, but they are/were just actors in these programs and the producers are not going to allow them to risk injuries for simple ratings. Now to those of you who want to catch hot snakes. Find someone who has had years of experience herping hots and is willing to show you the ropes. Never go herping alone (always have a second set of eyes, hands and ears with you.) And most important, never handle hots if you cannot totally focus on the animal you are handling. I presently have six rattlesnakes and anytime I am working with them, weather I'm cleaning cages, feeding, or transfering them into a new cage, my wife is along side of me with a snake hook watching and relaying every movement the snake makes. One bite could cost you many thousands of dollars in medical bills and months of recovery.

RE: Catching Venomous Snakes

the herptile master — Sat, 07 Jun 2008 16:07:38 GMT

try the steve iwrin shows. He is my all time hero. He was truly a herptile master.

RE: Catching Venomous Snakes

SCatheris — Thu, 29 May 2008 08:11:09 GMT

I've been told he's not as "nerdy" as he seems so just know......he's a good actor.

RE: Catching Venomous Snakes

blkfirecrystal — Wed, 28 May 2008 20:23:20 GMT

Luv*Orville (5/26/2008)

ohh geez....

jeff corwin catches snakes alot. maybe watch his shows?

Jeff Corwin doesn't catch his own snakes. While he may have a master in conservation, he is hardly a Zoologist/herpetologist, and not the best model around. He's just TV eye candy. I'd try one of the unsung heroes of Herpetology ( professors and grad students) at your local Universities.

I'm still amazed Jeff isn't dead yet. Guess he doesn't scuba much....

RE: Catching Venomous Snakes

SCatheris — Tue, 27 May 2008 08:03:10 GMT

No don't watch Corwin and go out and do what he does! and also don't get trained under somone who's only been keeping for a few months it's much safer if you do it under somone who has had years of experience. I doubt someone will train a 5th grader so you got a while to wait.

RE: Catching Venomous Snakes

Luv*Orville — Mon, 26 May 2008 04:03:17 GMT

ohh geez....

jeff corwin catches snakes alot. maybe watch his shows?

RE: Catching Venomous Snakes

blkfirecrystal — Mon, 26 May 2008 00:30:24 GMT

Wow...

Okay, as said above, you do not have the experiance needed to be handling hots. Herp master, what you posted is a sure fire way for a hospital visit IF YOU ARE LUCKY! Some people aren't that lucky...

First of all, I'd find a qualified hot keeper, or a herpetologist at the local university or zoo that has handled venomous spp. and train under them for a couple of months to years. Even then, it's always safer to try the tubing method of capture, not bare hands.
Gosh, almost retarded as Austin Stevens...

RE: Catching Venomous Snakes

SCatheris — Fri, 23 May 2008 07:57:04 GMT

mass hit the nail right on the head. now it may not cost 100,000 it can potentially depending on how bad a bite is. And I recommend not listening to herptile master mostly because I get the feeling he doesn't know what they're talkin about. And all of his spelling problems say a lto too. Actions speak louder than words.

RE: Catching Venomous Snakes

massalvaje — Fri, 23 May 2008 07:22:56 GMT

You don't want to catch venomous (Hots)!!! Why risk it? If you are asking on this forum you obviously do not have the experience to properly do it. Stick with snakes that won't kill you or send you home with a $100,000+ medical bill. STAY AWAY FROM THEM!!!

RE: Catching Venomous Snakes

the herptile master — Thu, 22 May 2008 19:20:30 GMT

Well first, you need to observe it and see if you an grabe it without getting bite. If the snake seems like it cant tagg you once you touce it, then grabb it by the tail. But, if you cant grebb the tail, then leave it alone. But if you can then do it. Once in hand,hold the hand the tail is in high. Stay clear of the head. Wtch out for strike pisitions and sighns of agression. Drop the snke if it climbs up its own body or if it becomes too snappy

And you hearing that from the best.

RE: Catching Venomous Snakes

SCatheris — Thu, 22 May 2008 07:56:09 GMT

but if you're already out there???then why have it?

RE: Catching Venomous Snakes

Crested Man — Wed, 21 May 2008 16:36:29 GMT

I would use the portable weather station to tell what days to go herping. They are very convienent.

RE: Catching Venomous Snakes

SCatheris — Wed, 21 May 2008 08:09:50 GMT

I'm not really gonna say anything because if I were to say how to do it then I could potentially be held liable for you if you got bit for whatever reason. I will say if you haven't had much experience with keepin snakes in general then I'd say don't jump the gun and try it. It's too big of a risk to jump in head first before looking. I'll be honest, and I'm not saying this to be mean I'm just lookin out ofr the hobby and you, looking at your other posts it appears to me that it wouldn't be a good idea for you to go catch hots but that's just my opinion and I can't stop you so do what you wanna do. I just checked your profile and you label your occupation as a 5th grader...........in light of this I'm gonna say you aren't ready to be goin for the deadly things. If you plan on doin it anyways whatever, I just don't think it would be the best idea.

RE: Catching Venomous Snakes

massalvaje — Wed, 21 May 2008 07:22:28 GMT

Just out of curiosity, what do you plan using the portable weather thing for?

Catching Venomous Snakes

Crested Man — Tue, 20 May 2008 21:16:09 GMT

I've never done it. The equipment I have
30" hook
ID of Southern California Reptiles
Portable Weather station
Sunscreen
Anything else.