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RE: Emerald tree boa vs Green tree python

Fully Scaled — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:32:57 GMT

Biak's are not any diffrent in their temper than any of the others I dont think. I have a Biak X Aru and shes as tame as my Blood or my Ball python. And maybe since shes a mix of 2 local's she has a diffrent temperment too but i dont think that Biak's are any more tempermental than the next it all just depends on the snake.

RE: Emerald tree boa vs Green tree python

chondrogal — Sat, 27 Sep 2008 16:25:58 GMT

Too much info in my head bouncing around!! I keep both (only one Basin female now though) and find that the disposition on the Emerald Basins is almost always very docile.... unless you're a food item. The northerns/Guyana Emmys are a lot less friendly (I believe because a lot of these that are available are imported wild caughts). A few of my friends breeding both species agree that even the Northern/Guyana's are generally pretty docile snakes that have been born and raised in captivity.

The green tree pythons are a lot more variable in color than their South American counterparts and disposition is actually quite similar imho. The majority of them are quite docile as adults, almost all are feisty as neonates. GTP neonates are about 1/5 the size of an emmy neo though so are defensive a bit longer than baby emmys. Stay away from the Biak locale type and your chance of having a very nice adult gtp is quite good.

As far as husbandry, I'm very predjudiced and believe that the gtps are easier. Their metabolism is higher and they seem to be quite a bit more tolerant of occasional husbandry errors. Regurge syndrome is practically unheard of with gtps.

Setup is virtually the same for both species so no difference there. Size is fairly comparable with the Emmys generally a bit larger than the gtps as mature adults.

RE: Emerald tree boa vs Green tree python

Grant — Sat, 27 Sep 2008 14:36:01 GMT

I have just heard that they are generally agressive and inactive. You must be very lucky!

RE: Emerald tree boa vs Green tree python

weird_science04 — Sat, 27 Sep 2008 09:22:22 GMT

FastFoward5k (9/24/2008)

Well I thought I liked Emerald Tree Boas more, but what is the point of getting a snake that will:

a. Try to kill you when you are cleaning out it's cage. Think about the scientific name Corralus caninus. Think about it. My Emerald has never struck at me or tried to kill me (stikes only at feeding time).

b. Needs a huge and humid cage. Very true.

c. Sits in one spot for about 95% of it's life. Not true. My snake is very active and moves around all the time. In his homemade cage, he would escape (I sorta broke it), even during the day! (I got him a new cage BTW)

I want a Red Phase Green Tree Python so badly. My dad hates snakes, but once I saw this snake: They to will change to green.

OK, here is my take on Emeralds. I love them. They are awesome! Ilan is gorgeous and I love holding him. He has never struck at me (with a rat hanging, yes). ATB are actually considered more aggressive than Emeralds. I have a friend who has been breeding Emeralds (from all different localities) for over 10 years and he has never bought a snake hook or used any types of gloves to get them out. I also do not own a snake hook or any snake handling utensils. I unwrap him from the tree and pull him out (yes, it can be difficult sometimes because he keeps wrapping himself). Wild caught emeralds have some issues with aggression and health issues. CBB emeralds are much different and you won't have the same worries. Could you get bit? Of course. Would it hurt? YES, more than most snakes. However, if you know your snake, you don't have to worry about this all the time. I love Ilan, I have had tons of friends hold him.

This is me holding my beautiful Emerald the day I got him!

His cage when I first got it!

Some outdoor pictures of Ilan!!!!

For size reference:

A friend holding my baby!!!

I have a friend who owns a GTP, and she uses a hook to get him out. So, I will leave you with your assumptions there.

Star

RE: Emerald tree boa vs Green tree python

oneWorld — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 13:07:50 GMT

I'll go with the GTP for obvious reasons.

RE: Emerald tree boa vs Green tree python

Grant — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 19:24:09 GMT

Well I thought I liked Emerald Tree Boas more, but what is the point of getting a snake that will:

a. Try to kill you when you are cleaning out it's cage. Think about the scientific name Corralus caninus. Think about it.

b. Needs a huge and humid cage.

c. Sits in one spot for about 95% of it's life.

I want a Red Phase Green Tree Python so badly. My dad hates snakes, but once I saw this snake:

I know I cannot wait any longer! I have to get a GTP. I usually don't beg to get my parents to let me get an animal, but for this I would probably have to. But it is the most beautiful animal I have ever seen. And plus they can become as handleable as Corn Snakes. Who wouldn't want a Morelia virdis?

RE: Emerald tree boa vs Green tree python

SacredSerpent — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 10:38:08 GMT

Good luck with that. Dont be discouraged, quite the contrary I have a Cooks tree Boa that is the only handleable one I have ever seen. I still wouldnt let a child hold her though, i would hate for her first strike to be on a kid. I honestly avoid handling her unless I have to prove her docility to you guys. Even after a month of no handling, I was still able to trust her just like the first time. The other tree boas were always "hit or miss" some days. Because of this I'm sure it depends on the individual temperment of the snake and respect you put into it. Have fun and get band-aids!

RE: Emerald tree boa vs Green tree python

bigcattattoos — Sun, 21 Sep 2008 14:54:58 GMT

Auballagh (9/21/2008)

Very cool! Hrrrmmmm.......

Emerald Tree Boa, Corallus caninus:

(C/B Female: Photo courtesy of Tony Nicoli)
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Amazon Tree Boa, Corallus hortalanus:

(W/C Import Male: Photo courtesy of The Boa Kingdom)
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Roger that! And here I thought that No One could resist that emerald green coloration for those ETB's!
Awesome, your new 'ATB's' should be a great choice!

Well I still hope in the future to get either a GTP or an ETB! But the cost at the moment is a bit much, lol. But I will have some in the future Marine

RE: Emerald tree boa vs Green tree python

Auballagh — Sun, 21 Sep 2008 14:52:26 GMT

RE: Emerald tree boa vs Green tree python

bigcattattoos — Sun, 21 Sep 2008 14:32:03 GMT

Well I didn't get the ETB, I decided to go with Amazon Tree Boas instead. When they come in, I will post pics Marine

RE: Emerald tree boa vs Green tree python

Auballagh — Sun, 21 Sep 2008 11:24:34 GMT

If you wind up with ETB's originating from the Amazon tree forest region of South America, you should be in pretty good shape with this species. I've heard nothing but heartache (And bite scars) occurring with all of the ETB's originating from Guyana, Surinam and elsewhere.
Good luck with your new Tree Boa youngsters and definitely, congrats on your purchase!

RE: Emerald tree boa vs Green tree python

bigcattattoos — Sun, 21 Sep 2008 00:35:45 GMT

Well I have decided to actually get 1.1 Amazon Tree Boas, they will arrive on Tuesday!!! They are babies & captive bred, and are fairly calm so says the owner. But hopefully with handling them regularly, they will be/stay calm. At least it's something new for the school shows well when they get a bit bigger Marine

RE: Emerald tree boa vs Green tree python

bigcattattoos — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:40:59 GMT

Auballagh (9/16/2008)

On another note, I carefully perused your Quite Extensive collection of reptiles, as listed on your signature. And........ I didn't note a single domestic (Meaning: North American) Tree Climber in that bunch!
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Not many things more impressive than a very large American Rat Snake to demonstrate for education purposes.

Well the reason I don't get rats/corns, or other native species, is because I live in GA. And we can't keep any species of reptiles found in this state(stupid law). I am trying to get a permit thru the GA DNR, but that takes time & money. But I am working on getting my permits but thanks from everyone for the great tips! Marine

RE: Emerald tree boa vs Green tree python

Auballagh — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 19:30:20 GMT

As mentioned by all above, I too concur with the recommendation for a GTP over the ETB.
GTP's seem less nervous as well, giving you the benefit of a an animal less prone to stress, (With resultant possible infection or feeding issues).
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On another note, I carefully perused your Quite Extensive collection of reptiles, as listed on your signature. And........ I didn't note a single domestic (Meaning: North American) Tree Climber in that bunch!
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Not many things more impressive than a very large American Rat Snake to demonstrate for education purposes. And........
I have a line on a domestic, wild caught Black Rat snake being offered for sale locally. (NOT mine! It's a 4 - 5 footer, just starting to lose his baby stripes).
These are easy keepers, man. And, I've personally seen that a 9 foot long, jet black snake sure does bring out a lot of Ooooohs and Aaaaahs at educational/demonstration events.

RE: Emerald tree boa vs Green tree python

Fully Scaled — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:08:38 GMT

I just got my GTP and she loves to be held. almost as much as my blood python or my ball. when they're smaller tho they do move quite quickly as mine is a year old and big for her age at about 2.5 ft maybe a little bit bigger but she moves verry fast. Not to mention there is alot more color morphs i believe too like with the diffrent local's my favorite are the Biak's and the Sorongs.

RE: Emerald tree boa vs Green tree python

bigcattattoos — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:54:08 GMT

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RE: Emerald tree boa vs Green tree python

bigcattattoos — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 06:48:17 GMT

I already use a ball python, and my KSB are too small at the moment to use (still babies). I don't have a burmese, and they get too big for just me and my husband to care for. At the moment, I only feel comfortable with snakes that don't get over 10-12 feet long. But thanks, for the tips everyone! I will take all the informaion and consider if I get any tree python or tree boa. Thanks for all the help! Marine

RE: Emerald tree boa vs Green tree python

uting — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 05:41:07 GMT

oh yeah variety. Why not a burm?

RE: Emerald tree boa vs Green tree python

uting — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 05:39:50 GMT

i have kept gtps for over a year know and lived in my brother's place where he has ETBs. Ive got bitten once by an ETB and once by GTP.The bite of an ETB hurts more.My substrate was only newspapaer.But I dont find them good to be used for educational purposes because they are not very handleabale why cant u use a Ball PYthon or KSB

RE: Emerald tree boa vs Green tree python

TAOreptiles — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 06:40:25 GMT

I've kept both and I personally like the pythons much better. They are a lot more mellow, still more aggressive than a corn snake, but much easier to handle than the emeralds. And like mentioned above, the emeralds have huge teeth, they are pretty scary.

RE: Emerald tree boa vs Green tree python

SacredSerpent — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:27:45 GMT

You'll avoid getting bit by some of the longest fangs of all non venomous snakes by getting the Green tree python. In fact most Emerald tree Boas are only display animals. You can handle GTPs almost everyday, the Emerald tree Boa only gets handling on the days they need to be cleaned out. Also Emeralds ellicit the purchase of a snake hook or tongs. Heed my warning or find out for yourself! Whatever...

Emerald tree boa vs Green tree python

bigcattattoos — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:43:41 GMT

I have a question for any of you that have had or currently keep, Green Tree Pythons or Emerald Tree Boas. Which has a better temperament? Which is easier to care for? Which doesn't mind handling (like for educational shows)? My husband builds our custom enclosures (lucky me-I married a contractor! lol). What size do they get, & type of enclosure, substrate, etc are needed? Color and looks aren't important to me, I just need more variety for my school shows. I have been considering one of these. Anyone have any tips or information for me? All assistance is greatly appreciated! I have over 7 years experience with various species of herps too. thanks, Marine