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| I got my ball about a week ago. he is about 3-4 months old and is starting to go into . i am trying to get the humidity up to about 80, but 65 is about the best i can get. i have a pretty big water dish on the cold side, a we towel over the screen on the cold side, i have a Tupperware with water and an air pump in it on the hot side!! what else can i do to get the humidity up, or am i overreacting? i just want to have a good shed! thanx
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| Do you have a light on the cage?
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| Why do you have an air pump in the water bowl? How are you heating the cage and what are the temps? 65% sounds fine to me. Honestly, you really don't have to get the humidity to 80. Balls shouldn't be kept at very high humidity all the time, anyway. The easiest thing to do is provide a humid hide box. Get a plastic container or a small box, cut an access hole and put damp moss or damp paper towels inside. You can put one on both sides of the cage so he can choose the right temperature. If he needs the moisture he will happily curl up in there or soak in his bowl. You can also lightly mist the cage once or twice a day while he's in shed. Don't overdo it, though. You don't want the substrate to be soaking wet. SInce your snake is new, just use the humidity box and see how it goes. If he has a bad shed, then you know that something is not right and needs to be changed.
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| I Put an air pomp in the Tupperware to raise the humidity!! it worked, it bumped up the humidity from 45 to 65. i do have a heat lamp on the hot side. before i put the home made humidifier in, i couldn't get the humidity to go above 45. im just trying to have a 1 piece shed!!
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Hollywood (10/28/2009)
I Put an air pomp in the Tupperware to raise the humidity!! it worked, it bumped up the humidity from 45 to 65. i do have a heat lamp on the hot side. before i put the home made humidifier in, i couldn't get the humidity to go above 45. im just trying to have a 1 piece shed!! Don't get excited. I hadn't considered that. Good idea. A sheet of plexiglass over the screen will hold humidity and heat better than a towel, by the way. Ball pythons come from a hot, arid area of the world and spend a lot of time in burrows where the humidity is higher, so just try the humidity boxes and don't worry. 65% is fine. Thanks, js.
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Well this has already been answered thoroughly, but I do have something to say.
I honestly think exterior humidity is highly overly exaggerated in reptile keeping. As long as the animal has a constant supply of water, it should be pretty healthy. I know of a very successful carpet python breeder who lives out west where the humidity gets around 30%. Carpets are supposed to have a fairly high humidity at around 70% or 80%. He never mists the cage unless the animal is in shed, and he never has bad sheds.
That being said, carpets tend to be easier to keep hydrated than balls, and balls almost always have bad sheds.
If your willing to pay a little more money, by a pvc cage. They hold humidity better than aquariums and are easier to clean. Here is a good place to by cheep, quality, plastic cages.
http://barrs.com/
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mbmosley (11/1/2009)
I honestly think exterior humidity is highly overly exaggerated in reptile keeping. As long as the animal has a constant supply of water, it should be pretty healthy. .....................Correct, kinda. It is about internal moisture. Most people do not understand that in captivity reptiles lose ALOT of internal moisture not through their skin ,but though the act respiration. Humidity hides allow access to moist AIR to breath to assist in regulating its moisture needs. And that is why they seek them out even when not in shed or close to it. Animals can come from a region with very low ambient humidity but still live in a i micro environment (like between rock fissures or in burrow) where the humidity is much higher then the out side air. Most if not all reptiles LIVE IN THINGS where the moisture and temp levels are not the same as the "outside" and thats what we as keepers should be looking at. The micro environments. WOW what a ramble!!! Did that even make any sense?
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mbmosley (11/1/2009)
I honestly think exterior humidity is highly overly exaggerated in reptile keeping. As long as the animal has a constant supply of water, it should be pretty healthy. .....................Correct, kinda. It is about internal moisture. Most people do not understand that in captivity reptiles lose ALOT of internal moisture not through their skin ,but though the act respiration. Humidity hides allow access to moist AIR to breath to assist in regulating its moisture needs. And that is why they seek them out even when not in shed or close to it. Animals can come from a region with very low ambient humidity but still live in a i micro environment (like between rock fissures or in burrow) where the humidity is much higher then the out side air. Most if not all reptiles LIVE IN THINGS where the moisture and temp levels are not the same as the "outside" and thats what we as keepers should be looking at. The micro environments. WOW what a ramble!!! Did that even make any sense? Yeah, that made plenty of sense. I kind of made it sound like I was saying hide boxes are useless, which is not what I intended to say. What you said about micro environments is interesting. The importance of variety within the cage is something in which I think is usually overlooked. It seems like people tend to try to make their cages with a set of rules on temperature and humidity. It's way better for the animal if you give them more choice in "climate" so to speak. Thats why humidity hides and temperature gradients are important. I like the way you keep your animals. From what I've seen your "habitats" are simple, yet they usually look good and are very effective.
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