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Posted 6/20/2003 1:43:52 PM


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Their relation is undeniable, as far as how its categorized well, you all know that I vehemently hate taxonomy. I stumbled on to this paper written in a taxonomy journal, while doing some research work in college that lumped the Lachesis in with Crotalus. It was called the evolution of rattlers or some such nonsense, that's why I made that statement. Some taxonomists push for the Lachesis to be grouped with Crotalus, while others want to divide Lachesis into 3 full species. This is based on DNA analysis...


Those were the days when I came up with my own thoughts on Evolution. The truth is right out there for you all to find.

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Posted 6/20/2003 2:33:30 PM


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Morelia Guy, here's a paper that I found.
http://www.eeb.cornell.edu/zamudio/KZpapers_pdf/Lachesis.pdf
It's technical but I think that you have a big enough brain for it. If you have any questions, catch me on AIM @ asmathicsandwich, or just e-mail me.
Now I warn you to be careful, there is a lot of speculation in this paper in regard to "mutations" and this will appear mtDNA, this is the specualation of what loci holds what mutated allele's. Just read over it, it will help you understand why I get so pissed off at the evolutionists. They carelessly say things like this only proves a lead to this mutation. HUH? what? You can find this mess, in this paper. Don't get me wrong it has redeeming qualities! Good range maps, LOL. Sorry for ruining the trivia again, guys and gals. You all did well, and can post your questions if you like, I will try to answer them. Except K-dogs! J/K

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Posted 6/20/2003 7:40:00 PM
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Thanks for the link, Atrox. It doesn't seem to work for me at the moment. I'll try again tomorrow morning.

Again, I have to say thanks for putting up with these questions because a lot of people find this stuff boring. I find it rather interesting though. I too, have found that there are severe flaws in today's thinking about evolution. I am a christian and I believe in the Good Lord, however, I have learned to be open minded and entertain all possibilities. I do rather enjoy poking holes in theories that have weak spots. I do believe that to certain degrees, all creatures on earth are related.

I have always known that Lachesis muta was a close relative to rattlesnakes, but until now, I haven't considered how close the relationship may be. I only wish I had the training and equipment to undergo an analysis of these taxonomic issues for myself rather than have to get information from pompous scientists who can't even agree with each other. As an amateur taxonomist, I can see quite a few similiarities between Croatalids and Lachesis. I'm sure any reasonable person could. However, I believe that taxonomists would have to study their DNA for further clues. Since I'm not able to access the file you provided, can you give me a summation of any DNA analysis done? If any that is...

You know...it alnost seems to me that we vastly underestimate nature. Perhaps we do. Nature is complex beyond true and complete understanding. We can't even approach that...but we sure can try!

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Posted 6/20/2003 8:36:33 PM


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Sorry you will need to download this first!
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html
Install this, its totally free, and then it will work.

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Posted 6/23/2003 4:59:27 PM
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I'm not too sure if this has been said already, but their striking patterns or positions seem to differ. The Rattlesnake winds up into the "S" position while the Cobra is more of a Lean- Back_Strike- And Strike Again snake. The King Cobra(not to get into specific species) is much larger than the Rattlesnake and usually more nutorious.
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Posted 6/24/2003 5:34:04 PM
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Cobras build nests and rattlers just "deliver."
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Posted 6/26/2003 9:22:04 AM


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You guys are awesome! Good job on the trivia, you covered most of the points, the other stuff is arbitrary. Anyway, I'm really busy this week doing my fireworks shows!!! (Yeah my favorite season) So the next trivia will have to wait[V]. Anyway let me know if you have any ideas for the next trivia, I will entertain any of your ideas. Once again good job guys.

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Posted 11/19/2009 4:35:08 PM


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The difference is that a rattlesnake is in the corrodadae (please correct my spelling if it's wrong) family, and a coral snake is in the elapidae family.

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Posted 11/19/2009 5:52:01 PM


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A.M herps its not good to bring back a post from 2003

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