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| I was wondering who has kept varying species together. i am an educated keeper. i have read just about everything on the web, I have a three inch thick binder of information as well as many books on tort keeping. so i know what the requirements for my 4 species are. I have heard from critics on kingsnake about the taboo of mixing species. but I say it can be done and I have been doing it. anyone else doing it with success. the key is overlapping the health requirements and enough space (hiding) for the smaller species. they need their own space but room to roam... what do you all think????
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I don't have torts but I have turts.But I think it can happen with most reptiles if they share the same inviroment along with space and hideing places so they won't get strees out.I don't keep any animals together though because they are way to different from each other and I just don't want thim strees.But that's just me,I think it can happen with alot of planning and care though.
_____________________________________________I am training as a veterinary technician for cats, dogs and exotics. To me every animal needs a little help from a vet.
Cuban Rock Iguana and Rhinoceros Iguana Reptiles I own:
3.2.1 Green Iguanas (Godzilla, Charmilion, Larz, Esperonza,Izzy and Blaze.)
1.0.0 Black Spiny-tailed Iguana (Sombra)
1.1.0 Eastern Box Turtles (Speedy and Shelly)
0.2.0 Common Snapping Turtles (Miss.Snappy and Radaga)
0.1.0 Red-Eared Slider (Rae)
1.0.0 Ball Python (Spikles)
0.0.1 New Caledonian Giant Gecko (Silver) Other animals I want to Own: Hyacinth Macaw and a Savannah Cat Animals I own: 0.1.0 Maine Coon (Kova)
0.1.0 Yellow Lab (Mia)
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| I think this would be compareable to you having your green iguanas in a habitat with a black iguana and maybe a rock iguana. if the enclosure was big enough and there were areas that each animal could get what it needed it would work. thanks for the post
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Yeah,I geuss it would work in ways.Also no problem.I think it works well with tort and turts though because when out side they do well together when getting natural sun because I have a big back yard.But I don't really like to share the same place in the inside though because it smaller.I also think it depends on the inviroment they come from to though because some like it more humid then others.Some like rocky homes while others like trees and stuff.But if you have like a large room or a closet or something I bet it would work in ways.
_____________________________________________I am training as a veterinary technician for cats, dogs and exotics. To me every animal needs a little help from a vet.
Cuban Rock Iguana and Rhinoceros Iguana Reptiles I own:
3.2.1 Green Iguanas (Godzilla, Charmilion, Larz, Esperonza,Izzy and Blaze.)
1.0.0 Black Spiny-tailed Iguana (Sombra)
1.1.0 Eastern Box Turtles (Speedy and Shelly)
0.2.0 Common Snapping Turtles (Miss.Snappy and Radaga)
0.1.0 Red-Eared Slider (Rae)
1.0.0 Ball Python (Spikles)
0.0.1 New Caledonian Giant Gecko (Silver) Other animals I want to Own: Hyacinth Macaw and a Savannah Cat Animals I own: 0.1.0 Maine Coon (Kova)
0.1.0 Yellow Lab (Mia)
1.2.0 Sugar Gliders (Tejano,Blanca and Larissa)
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| We keep redfoots, sulcatas, and 1 leopard in a large backyard together. The only problem we seem to be having is during mating season the sulcatas sometime get in the way of mating. We've also had sulcatas trying to mount the reds. Definitly a no no. Other than that they have lived together happily for about 10 years with no mishaps or health problems.
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| thanks for the reply snookxing, what part of the country do you live in, Florida ? My torts are not breeding size/age but my sulcata is getting close. I did find out he is a he for sure this summer. and his yard mate is a refoot, a greek and we also have a baby leo, but he is separated in a smaller table type setting, I live in the north east so they are more confined but they live together in an 8 x 12 tort shed in winter that is connected to an 8x 12 green house on warmer days and a fenced in area they can go into on summer days.. seem to be working so far.........!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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To me the main part is the "so far it's working" statement. I personally see it as an accident waiting to happen. Yes you may get away with it and I hope you do. To me it's much like a red eared slider who has lived for 20 years in a 10 gal aquarium with no lights and eating only iceburg lettuce and yet appears healthy and thriving. That owner got away with it, but look how many other RES died under the same kind of care.
These shelled guys have such an amazing will to survive and can survive under even such adverse conditions. To me I see a sulcata who will grow quite large, strong, and dominate the herd. A Greek who will soon be outsized by his herd mates and not be able to compete for food, shelters, or hides. A Leopard which is normally a shy tort compared to the rest. Then a Redfoot whose diet should consist of much more fruit and even animal protein then the other species should be having. I see a slight humidity difference there too, once more with the RF needing the most.
If all four are captive breds, the disease problems would be less then if even one is a wild caught...still there will be some differences in what they are naturally haboring.
Stress can cause a lot of problems and I just see this sometimes silent killer in the future rearing it's ugly head in this mixture of species.
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| point well taken.... i am always interested in constructive criticism and advice. I think , at least in my case, that I have taken the precautions as you have mentioned. the hides that I have are tunnels into the ground. all of my torts seem to have one that they prefer and they are all different sizes. so the sulcata can only get into the largest I also have the shed indoor and outdoor enclosures planted with lots of cover. I do feed the redfoot more fruits than the others...I spend time with them every day to make sure they eat what they are suppose to and that each is getting their fair share.. If a keeper is dilligent in providing what they need I think it will work but I am also always looking for signs of problems. question for you.... what do the people in a southern climate who can keep their torts outside for most of the year do about the humidity? like floridas humidity in the summer is insane!! probably perfect for a redfoot but not the sulcatas, but they both thrive for most keepers there. they are in the same humidity aren't they? thanks for the input
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| We live in South Florida. Our torts have lived together for over 10 years. We also have over an acre of land for them. Don't get me wrong we've had our share of seperating during mating and egg laying. We just added an enclosure that our sulcatas cannot access, only the smaller species, since our tort family has grown. Our juveniles are now large enough to move out to the property. We have many feeding areas because the sulcatas will rampage the smaller ones. Eventually we probably will segregate them all as we now have some m | | | |