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I bought some exo terra black sand and put it in with my leos. I had a feeling something was wrong cause it smelt like propane, but i ignored it cause sand doesnt go bad right? WRONG!!! within a few days, my leos were lethargic and eating improperly( This post was also related to the leos passing whole crickets post). I got rid of the sand and put them on paper towel and they r fine now. How can i trust that the next time i but sand it wont be bad?
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| Sand doesn't go bad. It's sand, not vegetables. Maybe there was something wrong with whatever dye they use in the coloring process. Did you email ZooMed about it? They respond to emails pretty quickly. I would ditch the sand altogether and put them on reptile carpet, slate, or tiles. Then you won't have to worry and will have a much easier time cleaning the cage.
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im not keen on ditching the sand. i like it for aesthetic reasons. how about calcisand. does it work? its the stuff that the lizards can eat right?
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A lot of people claim that Calci Sand is not digestable and causes impactions. I realy don't know how true that is. It could be an overblown internet rumor. There are plenty of people who have used it succesfully. There are a few different calcium sands on the market, so be sure to check them out. The finner grade sands, like play sand are easier to pass if injested.
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I would ditch the sand as well. It may look nice, but to put your animals at risk for reasons of looks, is not a wise choice.
I don't trust calci-sand either. Some use it successfully, but some end up with a dead herp.
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Exactly, don't use sand myself for my leo.
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Use only the finest sand. Just because it says "REPTILE" on the bag doesn't mean it's actually suitable for reptiles (such as Zoo Med's Repti Bark that says "Excellent substrate for green iguanas" on the front!).
It's better safe than sorry!
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| I only use playsand whenever I use sand. I do bake the sand just to make sure that it doesn't have any parasites. It is cheaper, and finer then the sand they sell for reptiles. Also you really don't want to encourage them eating the cali-sand because of the risk of impaction. For Leos just put a small dish with calcium in it and if they want it they will lick it out of the bowl. I have to say that I haven't heard of any other issues with the Exo Terra sand. I would say that it was an isolated issue, but I would still contact them and tell them of the problem that you had. They might want to investigate and if others have had a problem they might issue a recall for that item.
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| I have seen firsthand what sand does to leos. I lost my first leo due to impaction. If you want to avoid that, take him out and put him in a seperate container to feed him. I have also seen what calci-sand does to young beardies. The sand actually bonded with the beardie, and not only stunted his growth severely, but changed his color to blue. It took months to just get the sand off (lots and lots of sheds). I use sand, but I don't feed my pets in it.
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How about you use dry ground coconut husk? It's safe for herps to digest, and looks nice, I've used it for my leos and didn't have a problem.
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